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+4Clay4141 $_ARTHAN Capt Savage Bl4ckR4v3N 8 posters | Author | Message |
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Bl4ckR4v3N
Posts : 57 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2010-05-05
| Subject: Best units. Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:39 am | |
| So I played a few games against the computer.. and I downloaded everything including warzone and game ranger. I read everyones post and I'm sorry for being mean. I'd like to start playing again and I have something I want to talk about.
Do you think we can compile a list of the best units in the game? Lets say you wanted to create a fake race of the best of the best. Do you think warriors would be the best tier 1 melee, and maybe hunters, the best tier 1 ranged? Whats the best builder? Just for fun! | |
| | | Capt Savage
Posts : 303 Reputation : 2 Join date : 2008-12-02 Age : 38 Location : North Bend, WA
| Subject: Re: Best units. Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:36 am | |
| Monarch- Elsin tier 1 building- Enclave tier 1 builder- mage builder (creon just too expensive...) tier 1 soldier- executioner tier 1 ranged- hunter tier 1 extra units- veruna cats, mer warriors, fire wagon Naval units- Veruna (includes dock, boats) tier 2 building - keep tier 2 soldier- crusader (cant be converted) tier 2 ranged- mage archer tier 2 extra units- beast rider, titan, harpy, knights, witch, neo dragon tier 3 builder- Aco tier 3 units- Roc, Stone Giant tier 4 builder- flying builder defensive structures- mage tower, veruna arch tower, treb dragon- gold god- ghost of garcius
im a little tired might have missed something | |
| | | Bl4ckR4v3N
Posts : 57 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2010-05-05
| Subject: Re: Best units. Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:58 pm | |
| Monarch- Elsin bird- gargoyle tier 1 building- Enclave tier 1 builder- Dark Mason tier 1 soldier- Warrior tier 1 ranged- Hunter tier 1 extra units- horseman, swamp beast Naval units- Creon Navy tier 2 building- Keep tier 2 soldier- spirit wolf tier 2 ranged- fire demon tier 2 extra units- dark hand, dirigible, blade demon, fire mage, gryphon tier 3 builder- Dark Priest tier 3 units- Fallen Angel, Giant Barracuda, Roc defensive structure- death totem, light house, prismatic mirror dragon- juggernaught god- tammuz
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| | | $_ARTHAN
Posts : 759 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2011-03-01 Age : 34 Location : Greece
| Subject: Re: Best units. Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:07 am | |
| Despite the fact choosing the best units in a game is totally against my ideology (I strongly believe each unit must be treated with equal respect) here I post the units I know how to use best in each tier, so the strongest units for me and just me:
*When I play a skirmish game against AI: Monarch- Thirsha tier 1 building- Smithy tier 1 builder- Beast Handler tier 1 soldier- Troll tier 1 ranged- Archer tier 1 extra units- Tortoise, Aramon Catapult, Veruna Catapult Naval units- Gaint Barracuda, Kraken, Harpoon Ship tier 2 building- Abyss tier 2 soldier- Barbarian, Crusader tier 2 ranged- Centaur, Skeleton Archer tier 2 extra units- Dark Hand, Dirigible, Rolling Tower tier 3 builder- Priest of Lihr tier 3 units- Drake, Ballista, Sky Dragon defensive structure- Stronghold, Bastion dragon- Ancient Dragon god- Wrath of Tammuz
*When I play an online game against human players: Monarch- Kirenna tier 1 building- Enclave tier 1 builder- Dark Mason, Priestess tier 1 soldier- Warrior, Swordsman tier 1 ranged- Crossbowman tier 1 extra units- Ghost Ship, Tortoise Naval units- Man of War, Iron Clad tier 2 building- Academy tier 2 soldier- Berzerker tier 2 ranged- Shock Trooper tier 2 extra units- Gryphon tier 3 builder- Chief Engineer tier 3 units- Stone Giant defensive structure- Caged Demon, Death Totem, Lighthouse dragon- Sea Dragon god- Ghost of Garacaius
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| | | Clay4141
Posts : 498 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2008-08-02
| Subject: Re: Best units. Tue Jul 19, 2011 7:15 pm | |
| Monarch- Sage tier 1 building- Enclave tier 1 builder- Dark Mason tier 1 soldier- automation tier 1 ranged- black knight tier 1 extra units- zombie, goblin, tortoise Naval units- submersible, repair skiff, transport ship, man-o-war tier 2 building - Academy tier 2 soldier- Berzerker tier 2 ranged- Shock Trooper tier 2 extra units- Basilik, Sky Knight, Amazon Knight, Skeleton Archer tier 3 builder- Priest of Lihr tier 3 units- Rolling Tower, Balista, Giant Baracuda tier 4 builder- flying builder defensive structures- Gatling Crossbow, Bomb Sprinkler, Lighthouse dragon- Ancient Dragon god- Lihr
Make fun of it all you want, this race would rock! | |
| | | $_ARTHAN
Posts : 759 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2011-03-01 Age : 34 Location : Greece
| Subject: Re: Best units. Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:26 am | |
| - Clay4141 wrote:
- Monarch- Sage
tier 1 building- Enclave tier 1 builder- Dark Mason tier 1 soldier- automation tier 1 ranged- black knight tier 1 extra units- zombie, goblin, tortoise Naval units- submersible, repair skiff, transport ship, man-o-war tier 2 building - Academy tier 2 soldier- Berzerker tier 2 ranged- Shock Trooper tier 2 extra units- Basilik, Sky Knight, Amazon Knight, Skeleton Archer tier 3 builder- Priest of Lihr tier 3 units- Rolling Tower, Balista, Giant Baracuda tier 4 builder- flying builder defensive structures- Gatling Crossbow, Bomb Sprinkler, Lighthouse dragon- Ancient Dragon god- Lihr
Make fun of it all you want, this race would rock! Impressive! Clay has included the useless Automaton and Shock Trooper units in his list. But, dear Clay, I thought you were believing that Automatons and Shock Troopers were useless, weren't you? I do not make fun of your choice, I am just impressed by it. | |
| | | Bl4ckR4v3N
Posts : 57 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2010-05-05
| Subject: Re: Best units. Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:16 am | |
| I think you just got trolled Arthan. Just saying. | |
| | | Myst
Posts : 390 Reputation : 4 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 38 Location : Poland
| Subject: Re: Best units. Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:20 am | |
| he just learned from the best one ^^ | |
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| Subject: Re: Best units. Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:59 pm | |
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| | | angel3b
Posts : 420 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2010-02-27
| Subject: Re: Best units. Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:27 pm | |
| Woaaa i want play it too...here i go
Monarch- Kirenna Flying unit- Bat tier 1 building- Enclave tier 1 builder- Mechanic tier 1 soldier- Execturioner tier 1 ranged- crossbowman tier 1 extra units- catapult(ver), fire wagon) Naval units- Man of war, swamp beast and harpoon ship tier 2 building- Keep tier 2 soldier- zerker tier 2 ranged- mage archer tier 2 extra units- neo dragon, canooner , crusader and fire demon tier 3 builder- Aco tier 3 units- Titan, Fire Mage, Roc (i put titan as tier 3 cuz they deserve to be consider as one) tier 4 builder- Flying Builder defensive structure- Lighthouse, Death Totem and Treb (if i could add one more it would be a Bastion to blow everything around it xD) dragon- Black Dragon god- Ghost of Garacaius
You have everything you need here. Long and good range with catas, cannons and fd. You have a hunt unit (zerker) good warriors (executioner, crusader), and the best ranged in my opinion that are crossbowman and mage archer. A roc to allow me some good drops of fire mages, acos and titans (simple like that). The badass fleet to attack and protect everything, naval units and air units. Death Totem, is the best tower in mana cost considering its damage, lighthouse for a good sigh and radar a treb just for safe, and like veruna have 4 structures of defense(tower, bastion lighthouse and mortar) if i could add a bastion it would be cool to. Black Dragon the mother-fooker Dragon and Ghost of Garacaius i dont need to tell why. That is my opinion after all.
Edit. Btw kirenna is just chemical thing, but is the best to wave, and with the pursuit bubble that i can throw as 4 times is pretty good. | |
| | | $_ARTHAN
Posts : 759 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2011-03-01 Age : 34 Location : Greece
| Subject: Re: Best units. Wed Jul 20, 2011 4:07 pm | |
| - Bl4ckR4v3N wrote:
- I think you just got trolled Arthan. Just saying.
@Bl4ckR4v3N: I am not trolling, Black Raven. There was a huge argument with Caly4141 about Automatons, Shock Troopers, Fire Wagons and Beast Riders. Clay4141 said that Automatons & Shock troopers were almost useless units, since Fire Wagons were much better in almost every situation and Beast Riders are just the best Creon unit. On the other hand, ARTHAN (me, LOL!) said that every unit has its use and wrote some strategies about using Automatons & Shock Troopers together. That's why I got surprised by Clay's post. | |
| | | Clay4141
Posts : 498 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2008-08-02
| Subject: Re: Best units. Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:21 pm | |
| I would like to see more people add to this game. Its a fun idea. Where art tho NOOBHAWK? MYST? ...JOKER?
Based on my fake race I was going for cannon fodder tier 1. Zombies to instantly move to base. Automations to patrol. Goblins to patrol, if the goblins make it there, have them attack buildings/factories. Black Knights to kill birds, Tortoises to shoot from behind my walking walls.
Tier 2. Skeleton archers are weak and can produce alot to fill in behind the fodder. Sky Knights just look cool and can maybe take out cannons or builders. Amazon Knights just for fun to run around with and distract. And berzerkers can get in fast and take out buildings like goblins. And shock troopers because their lightning makes a cool sound.
The rolling tower is bc I'd build one to protect Sage because I'd have him up front with his morter shooting over my walking walls. *shrug* I like to be different. | |
| | | Myst
Posts : 390 Reputation : 4 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 38 Location : Poland
| Subject: Re: Best units. Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:28 pm | |
| - Clay4141 wrote:
- I would like to see more people add to this game. Its a fun idea.
Where art tho NOOBHAWK? MYST? ...JOKER?. yeah.. i didnt answer much here because i was sick of stupid discussion, this thrash, stupid hole .. etc who is better player. Now i see hope its finished (or just paused) for long time ^^ so I might be active here again little more. Monarch- Elsin tier 1 building- Enclave tier 1 builder- Priestess (so hot) tier 1 ranged- archer (remind me of Robin Hood lol) tier 1 extra units- ghost ship (so scarry) Naval units- ark xD tier 2 building - catidel tier 2 soldier- crusader (paladins!) tier 2 ranged- skeleton arches (because i liked to crash them with my barbarian from diablo2) tier 2 extra units- fire mage tier 3 builder- Dark priest (ghouls!!!!) tier 3 special units - defensive structures- mage tower dragon- black god- atheist ^^ | |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Best units. Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:31 pm | |
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| | | Bl4ckR4v3N
Posts : 57 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2010-05-05
| Subject: Re: Best units. Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:31 pm | |
| I've edited my 2nd post to reflect what units I would really like to have. I like units that can ressurect other units, and units that leave corpses, so I can easily create a larger army on the go. | |
| | | $ MalinOMW
Posts : 577 Reputation : 9 Join date : 2011-07-22 Age : 31 Location : Poland
| Subject: Re: Best units. Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:36 pm | |
| Monarch - Sage ( he looks stupid ) tier 1 building -cabal ( its have nice fire when have a little health ) tier 1 builder - mage builder ( this hammer ) tier 1 range - hunter tier 1 soldier - troll tier 1 extra unit - zoombie ( big amount health ) catapult swamp beast ( if water on map )
Naval no any navals
tier 2 build - beast tamer ( good price ) tier 2 soldier - barbarian tier 2 ranged - fire demon tier 2 extra unit - spirit wolf berzerker
tier 3 build - acolyte ( spells health aura) tier 3 units - roc , jungle orc tier defensive structure - mage tower dragon - black* god- garracious
* one time when i play vs 7 cpu i got black dragon who killed 1108 guys that was epic game
have anyone units statistics ( with Crusade ballance ) on excel?
Edit but a long time ago i see statistic ( maybe on RX-clan web site ) with many many details ( but that was for 3.0 ):
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| | | Tarosking-DB
Posts : 162 Reputation : 0 Join date : 2010-08-02 Age : 36 Location : Pittsburgh
| Subject: Re: Best units. Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:38 pm | |
| Hatebreeder posted a spreadsheet of all the unit statistics awhile ago.. i don't remember where it's at though.. check the DB section of the clan forums. | |
| | | Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Best units. Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:34 am | |
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| | | Myst
Posts : 390 Reputation : 4 Join date : 2009-07-16 Age : 38 Location : Poland
| Subject: Re: Best units. Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:38 pm | |
| - On-my-way wrote:
- Monarch - Sage ( he looks stupid
hahaha Sage will block your ip and kill you ^^ | |
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